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Perceptions of Jihad: interview impossible Infidel

Stock A pearl found by chance this interview appeared on the site romastyle.info more or less in autumn 2004.

E’ abbastanza raro che, al termine di una serata qualsiasi (festa in un locale, djset di chicchessia ecc.) i commenti del pubblico vertano più sulle immagini dell’immancabile schermo a fondo sala, che sulla musica che sta uscendo casings. The role of visuals, vj's, etc., is mostly understood as "visual wallpaper" useful only to make an evening of music a bit 'more colorful. No lack of exceptions, it is true. But in any case I have heard comments so hotly on visuals, as when the console is behind Infidel. His way of working with images sometimes provokes reactions most of the performances of those behind the mixer, and who has seen it knows why the work: representations shock Ultrapop alternate with patches, sequences that pass either version of the Powerpuff Girls suicide bombers in particular of human anatomy, religious icons of all types who go to time with animated logos of Nike, and so on. In short, an aesthetic that bombing is rarely go unnoticed.


thing but it should not surprise, if you have a basic knowledge of Italian avant-garde imagination for ten years now. Why the first turning to the role of 'visual tapestry' Infidel was (and is) one of the leading names of the imaginary national underground, and Roman in the first place. His comic books, his prints, his covers for the magazine Thorazine, are a cornerstone of a way of understanding the aesthetic experience in a provocative and cortocircuitale to point to say, even without too much emphasis, that yes, the touch of Infidel "did school." In this perspective, it is only natural that our paper has gone from graphics to animation disturbing that he partakes in here about a year, first as resident VJ (along with that other alien presence that is Nikki) of queer party Phag Off His view of terrorism is an across the board, as stated in the interview that follows. Notwithstanding that his work as a graphic designer and illustrator is still continuing in the first place for the new incarnation under the name of Torazine Catastrophe: An event that anticipates the end of the Infidel interview, and which will required return in the future.


Well, Infidel interview (which is anagrafe Enrico D'Elia), the undersigned has not been easy. Firstly, because, bluntly, is a friend, which understandably affects a neutral approach to his work. Second, because Henry, that is, Infidel, is not the usual "subject to interview." The following is a summary exhausting, by dint of cutting and pasting of a conversation based on provocative keystrokes, tragicomic delusions, and memories both personal and collective. I begin by ask him the obvious question that comes in mente, e cioè: possiamo infine definirti un vj?



Hmmm… Se cerchi con Google “Infidel + vj” escono cinque risultati utili. Se invece cerchi “Infidel + visuals” di risultati utili ne escono solo tre. Quindi dovrei considerarmi più vj che visuals.



Bene, è gia chiaro come rischiano di andare le cose. Si potrebbe continuare così, a forza di malcelata (auto)ironia e battute di scherno. Allora ecco Infidel che tenta di fare uno sforzo sotto la pressione del sottoscritto, who begs him to at least give a name to what he does.


work on motion graphics. Then, if you want to know, in the depths of my room no, do not consider myself not a vj.


Hm. I ask him if his motion graphics are to be understood as mere visual decoration projects of others, or is traceable some original content. Because in the end it seems to me that here is the gap that separates a visual of Infidel from that of other "visual upholsterers. Perhaps I'm wrong.



Puoi tranquillamente pensare alle mie cose come a delle decorazioni. Oppure puoi trovarci un contenuto, se ci tieni. In Phag Off, l’evento queer curato da Warbear per cui curo l’intera parte grafica (e quindi anche flyer, manifesti ecc), mi diverto a trovare soluzioni il più possibile disturbanti. Animazioni che partono da manuali di medicina ottocenteschi, naturalmente molti cazzi, detournement di immagini televisive… beh, le solite cose mie, mettila in questo modo.



Il concetto di shock estetico. Preferisco metterla così.



Faccio collidere contenuti che contrastano tra loro. Il risultato diciamo che funziona. Quando recentemente ho passato immagini tratte dalla guerra in Iraq, è venuta un sacco di gente sconcertata a parlarmi. O a insultarmi, anche. Ehehehe…



In fondo, penso io, cambiano i mezzi ma non la sostanza. Le reazioni ai lavori di Infidel, da che mi ricordo, sono sempre oscillate tra lo stupore e il raccapriccio. Tutta Torazine – per cui Infidel ha curato un imprinting visivo fondamentale – giocava su questa ambivalenza, more or less explicit. But before turning to photomontage to the computer, before coming to the use of Flxer dj set Warbear Phag to Off, there was also a time when Infidel was still known by his full name and used a pencil and ink to put his works on paper. I ask him to talk about when Enrico D'Elia was considered a talented Italian comic. A story of his career as a cartoonist. Here it is:


The first comic I made them in grade school. Then in 2001 I stopped.


Fine. Mi sembra un po’ poco. Una sintesi un tantino eccessiva. Suppongo che non tutti su Romastyle siano appassionati di fumetti anni ’90, e che non tutti abbiano sentito il nome di Enrico D’Elia pronunciato da qualche studioso dell’immaginario underground italiano. Allora, di nuovo, lo imploro di farmi qualche nome.



Ho collaborato con delle riviste: Interzona, Fandango, Schizzo, Motorino, Kerosene…



Ecco, Kerosene. Kerosene è stata un’esperienza che nel suo piccolo left its mark. Even those who, like me, had great interest in art of comics. For a time was considered the magazine of the underground comic Italian, giving way to a "Roman school" experience that ended up producing more misunderstood (Lampi Grevi, Spin, etc.) of which now seems to be untraceable. I would like to experience some memory Kerosene.


With Kerosene was fun to go to the comics convention. Seriously, I enjoyed very much. At our booth were children, and I did them doodles. To the girls liked the character I was at the time, Kutekat (shapeshifter a kitten with its head cut). I had to stop because I was not able to carry out a series all by himself: after seven episodes so I messed up the story that I did not understand anything.


Children. Here's what draws me out. What starts exhausting. Seeking to cut as much as possible "information" to the conversation. Give me some news, I say. Give me some names of authors of reference. Tell me about the style, stories and skills of your work time. So maybe not the best for you, but maybe some readers are interested.


Kutekat ... Well, like the other things I did at the time (we are in the mid-90), had a touch of Tim Burton, Philip Dick and American underground comics. For me the turning point coincided with the New Pop, when ruled Jott Seibold. Before I tried once more or less realistic, I was trying to "describe reality", then I started to make dolls too dirty and sad. Looking back on those things now seem more like a taste of scimmiottature to Tim Burton, who then has in effect imposed finding its nice niche market. Emily the Strange and Pucca now they are available on T-shirts, handbags on ... I wanted to take too much of merchandising for the train alternative pop-surrealist, but then ...


Oh. Finally, the story begins to take effect. There is a before and there is an after. There is a train that passes when it is too late. Why in the middle of something must have happened, I guess. I ask: what?


I gradually abandoned pencil sharpeners and erasers. I started using more and more Photoshop. I converted a fascination for graphics and style of advertising. I abandoned the idea of \u200b\u200b"cultivating a style," to dedicate myself to clone others' languages. War of perceptions, industrial, plagiarism, provocations free (but really free). I enjoyed touching pornographic photographs, and one day I took these at a party pornoritocchi Massimo Canvas. He says: "You have to see these things in a guy, is doing a magazine." The guy was Macarone Francesco Palmieri (Warbear hours, but at the time known as Cikitone / @ lter8) and the magazine was Torazine.


Finally. We have spent more than necessary to get where I wanted to go. Torazine. A unique Italian underground publishing and non-controversial five numbers, the last of which went to cover an unsaleable facial by man that I'm (poorly) trying to interview. Torazine to have dealt more or less. Newspapers, magazines, books, websites, even on heading Vincenzo Mollica Do Re Ciak Gulp of Tg1. I want a version of events. Something like "The epic Torazine view from one of its protagonists." Almost four years away from the latest issue.


In Torazine I was confronted with the ravings of people like charts and graphs Mekkanici Atonal, and with the air "vitiated" the non-drafting toraziniana. The meetings of the magazine consisted mostly spoken word in between ultralogorroici Warbear and Duka (undergound another historic character of Rome), then the story was always out of the hanger to put on the drug, the usual comments on the rave at the time were already a bit tired 'all, and so on. etc.. We went on for five years, from 1996 to 2001. At that time, in addition to the magazine, parties, presentations, events and well, the usual things, plus we were cluttered presence in different situations "important." I remember the dawn of Toretta Morphoing Trash with Style at the Fort, the Festival Off, the first time in Rome by Autechre ... One of the quotes was the presentation of the revised Degradation (local historian Pigneto red light), in which the first time we have come closer to that world of monsters of the opposite sex who would become the mythology reference Phag Off


Okay, that's something. In order not to betray the turning narrative that you are taking the interview (but you can call it that?) When I ask him how and why he Torazine cessato le pubblicazioni, per trasformarsi in marchio fantasma dell’Italia avariata anni 2000.



Col tempo un po’ di gente ha cominciato a defilarsi. Per me uno dei colpi più duri è stato il lento allontanamento di Stefano Rotamas/Rota Masnada, che era quello che scriveva gli articoli più belli. E’ vero, Torazine come progetto editoriale è al momento in piacevole agonia, nel senso che ora come ora il marchio Torazine rimane come brand di riferimento per un collettivo “virtuale”, ramificato in mille progetti diversi, tra cui appunto Phag Off, Venerea Maison, e tanti altri. Però Torazine continues to give birth to monsters. Indeed, what must be the sixth issue of the magazine has now turned into Catastrophe ...


Torazine has Catastrophe. I feel relieved. In extremis, the conversation with Infidel followed a linear development: past, present and future. The interviews are always close with the question "upcoming projects", no? Catastrophe does not yet exist - in the sense that it is still here among us, touchable with hands, etc. for sale in major bookstores. But there is little. Just a few weeks. Infidel, that I ask at this point is: anticipaci something about it.


Catastrophe is two things: the journal of Thorazine, if we want to Torazine the team who worked on it. And the magazine's daughter Torazine, if its manifestation paper Torazine mean pure and simple. Compared with Thorazine, Catastrophe is more pop. Torazine referred to the so-called Apocalypse Culture, and Catastrophe is more interested in pop culture fetishes of the masses. It will be released in mid-April, and there the world will know it. I wonder if the Italian publishing can support this new project ... For me it's important to come out a new magazine of this type. If I miss it. For the first issue I edited the cover and a "best of" of some of my faux-advertising (the Playmobin Laden, McGang Burger, the white front sight, etc.), but already is preparing a second edition that will have a special container on the subject "Faith". Here, I've asked of Christ, who last year became my greatest source of inspiration. I do not know who I love the most, where the Virgin Mary, or Jesus the crucified Christ Child. I would say however that Christ is my idol, at least for now. Write it, is important.


I written. Mission accomplished. Can end here. But no, wait ... I forgot: Infidel will be one of the vj romastyle Party to be held April 30. Now that I think, that was why we decided to interview him. What we promise for the evening, Henry? What will give, for the occasion, Infidel?


Jesus Christ. Of all kinds.

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